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	<title>Comments on: analysis: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat</title>
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		<title>By: 55barfly</title>
		<link>http://music.linear1.org/2006/08/28/analysis-goodbye-pork-pie-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-19485</link>
		<dc:creator>55barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response.  I agree, they are the same changes with extensions and substitutions to outline the melody. 

What perplexes me is how they relate to the key signature.  As you say, the F blues scale works; the first three notes of the melody outline an Fm triad; the whole progression can be brought gracefully to rest on an Fm chord.  But there&#039;s no Fm anywhere in the progression.  I notice you refer to F7 as the i chord.

I&#039;m just fishing for a free lesson really!  But if there is an explanation I&#039;d be really pleased to know it.

Regards, John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response.  I agree, they are the same changes with extensions and substitutions to outline the melody. </p>
<p>What perplexes me is how they relate to the key signature.  As you say, the F blues scale works; the first three notes of the melody outline an Fm triad; the whole progression can be brought gracefully to rest on an Fm chord.  But there&#8217;s no Fm anywhere in the progression.  I notice you refer to F7 as the i chord.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just fishing for a free lesson really!  But if there is an explanation I&#8217;d be really pleased to know it.</p>
<p>Regards, John</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my first observation is that those are well within what I would consider the same changes. It&#039;s certainly not a huge distance away.

The word &quot;wrong&quot; kind of doesn&#039;t sit well with me. There&#039;s room for either sound in there, and you aren&#039;t deviating so wildly that you change the composer&#039;s intent when you make that sub. Changing qualities or extensions to improve voice leading (or attain any other musical goal really) is pretty well within bounds.

I guess my analysis can be summed up as a possibly misguided attempt to map this into the 12-bar blues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my first observation is that those are well within what I would consider the same changes. It&#8217;s certainly not a huge distance away.</p>
<p>The word &#8220;wrong&#8221; kind of doesn&#8217;t sit well with me. There&#8217;s room for either sound in there, and you aren&#8217;t deviating so wildly that you change the composer&#8217;s intent when you make that sub. Changing qualities or extensions to improve voice leading (or attain any other musical goal really) is pretty well within bounds.</p>
<p>I guess my analysis can be summed up as a possibly misguided attempt to map this into the 12-bar blues.</p>
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		<title>By: 55barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>55barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this analysis which I&#039;m working hard to understand.  No refelection on you!  I&#039;ve played this tune by ear for years.  Unfortunately that&#039;s how I have to play every tune.  My chords currently in the neighbourhood of:

F7#9  Db13 &#124; GbM9  B7b5 &#124; Eb7sus4  Db13 &#124; Eb7sus4  F7/C
Bb7sus4  Db13 &#124; C7sus4 C7#5#9 &#124; Ddim7 E/G &#124; Db7  GbM9
B13  Bb7 &#124; C7#5  Eb7#5 &#124; F7#9  Db7 &#124; GbM7b5  B7b5

My sus chords in bars 5 and 6 are wrong and your minors are right.  The Gm in bar 6 for my money is one of the best sounds in the whole of the piece, but the I&#039;m using the sus chords at the moment because they provide an element of chord melody.  Looks like I go for a bit of a ramble in bar 7 too.

OK, so I know it&#039;s in F minor because that&#039;s what works.  An extra couple of bars of Fm11 at the end of a solo makes a beautiful space before the next.  My dumb question, though, is: how is it in F minor?  There&#039;s not an Fm chord in the whole of the progression and yet it&#039;s implied throughout.  Some advanced form of substitution ... ?

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this analysis which I&#8217;m working hard to understand.  No refelection on you!  I&#8217;ve played this tune by ear for years.  Unfortunately that&#8217;s how I have to play every tune.  My chords currently in the neighbourhood of:</p>
<p>F7#9  Db13 | GbM9  B7b5 | Eb7sus4  Db13 | Eb7sus4  F7/C<br />
Bb7sus4  Db13 | C7sus4 C7#5#9 | Ddim7 E/G | Db7  GbM9<br />
B13  Bb7 | C7#5  Eb7#5 | F7#9  Db7 | GbM7b5  B7b5</p>
<p>My sus chords in bars 5 and 6 are wrong and your minors are right.  The Gm in bar 6 for my money is one of the best sounds in the whole of the piece, but the I&#8217;m using the sus chords at the moment because they provide an element of chord melody.  Looks like I go for a bit of a ramble in bar 7 too.</p>
<p>OK, so I know it&#8217;s in F minor because that&#8217;s what works.  An extra couple of bars of Fm11 at the end of a solo makes a beautiful space before the next.  My dumb question, though, is: how is it in F minor?  There&#8217;s not an Fm chord in the whole of the progression and yet it&#8217;s implied throughout.  Some advanced form of substitution &#8230; ?</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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